We were across the Savio River; we'd taken up our position,
which is, our objective was to cross the river and that's what we
did and we got in there and we weren't there too long before we
were attacked by tanks and... the first tank we knocked out.
We knocked out, I think, one tank and two S.P. guns
(Self-Propelled Guns), a German staff car and we were attacked
by Germans, but we drove them off.
Interviewer: When you say we...
Well, at this time I had my, I had a section of men. You know...
I had a P.I.A.T. man; I had a 2IC for the P.I.A.T. we had a
couple of guys you know around, see when you're firing a P.I.A.T.
gun you have no way of protecting yourself so you have to have
somebody along side of you, at that time we had Tommy Guns
to protect the guy that was firing that weapon. And so we had
them, but these things... so I say, Kenny Vallar lost an eye so
that was the end of him and I don't know what happened to the
others. I know they got wounded, or you know mostly wounded,
and then in the end there was just Jimmy and I, and then he got
wounded so that left only me. So, I had to stay out there by
myself while everybody else was in the church. So I stayed there,
where else do you, you got no place to go, anyway. By this time,
we'd wiped out all the tanks. I don't think really, I could see
tanks the next day you know in daylight, but they didn't really
know what was really going on, they must have figured there was a
whole army there because they could have wiped me out in no time
if they'd known I was practically all by myself. Because I had
nothing from C Company up the road and no, that was A company
and on the other side was C Company and they were all in the
church. Cause when I went in the church and I took Jimmy over
and I knew Major Lynch, Stu Lynch I knew; he was a hell of
a guy, he said, "I think we're surrounded, what should we do?"
And I said "I suggest you all take a window if you're surrounded
and keep your head down." So I think that's what they did.
They'd take advice from a Private so they could live through,
but they stayed there and in time the Germans pulled out, but I
say I don't think they actually knew who was there.
Interviewer: When they first counter attacked, there were
three Panther V tanks, and as I understand it there
was just the one P.I.A.T.?
I only had, that's all I had left, yeah.
Interviewer: And you knocked out...?
I knocked out one.
Interviewer: And the section of men, the German infantry that
were on the back of the tank swarmed around to the
front and came towards you.
That's right.
Interviewer: How far away would they have been Smoky?
Oh, thirty feet, twenty-five feet, something like that.
Interviewer: So who was firing with you?
Just me. Because Jimmy was still in the ditch, he was wounded.
Interviewer: So these ten or so German infantry men were coming
down on you and you fired at them?
Yeah, I opened up.
Interviewer: What happened then?
Well, I got four of them and the rest of them took off.
Thank the Lord.
Interviewer: And for that...?
For that I got the V.C.
Interviewer: Victoria Cross.
Yeah, I didn't know I was going to get it, I didn't know I was
going to get anything. But later on after that was all over and
after the (inaudible), about a week later after everything
was investigated by the top brass, they never could talk to me
at all. The colonel sent for me and asked me how long I been
there and I said "Two years" he said "You must be getting tired"
and I said "I was tired when I got here." So he said, "I've got
a job for you." They took me out of the front line. So I figured
they're being nice to me, there was something going on. But you
don't know, nobody tells you. So I sat there until then. I think
I left Italy, well I left around the first part of December.
The 12th of December I was taken from the regiment
and taken down to Naples. Then they flew me to England on the
18th and then I was presented with the VC and then they flew me
back to Vancouver.
Interviewer: Now, you were presented with the VC.
By King George the Sixth.
Interviewer: Where?
Buckingham Palace in his private apartments.
Interviewer: And what was that like?
Oh, well (laughs) I'd never met a King before. He was great to
get along with. But it was only the second time in history that a
VC had been presented in his private apartments at night.
Then after I got it, they told me to put it in my pocket and
say nothing. I had it for three days and nobody knew it until
they told me that I could wear it. And they said the reason for
this was so that Canadian papers would have it the same time
as the British. So I walked around for three days in London,
in and out of pubs with a VC inside my pocket and nobody knew
about it. And then I was sitting there one day and the sergeant
major came in, he says, "Smoky Smith, you can wear that
medal if you want." And I put it on and I never bought
another drink that day.
Interviewer: So that was the real reward?
That was the reward.
Interviewer: Now you say that you were then flown to Vancouver?
I was taken up to Scotland first to Prestwick and... I flew in a
Liberator Bomber from there down to Azores and then across and
they dropped me off in Laval, Quebec. And then I was taken there
by TCA (Trans-Canada Airlines). Well, actually, from Laval I
went in a fighter pilot into that time it was Kapuskasing, is it?
Yeah, because I'd missed the flight and they flew Major Severts
and I in this fighter plane into Kapuskasing and the guy flew in
there and I said, "Gee you just missed that Semi?
And he said, "Well I'm a fighter pilot, I'm not used to these
things." "Thank God I'm in this thing" So I flew from Scotland to
Vancouver in 40 hours, broke a record.
Interviewer: What kind of a welcome did you get in Vancouver?
Well, I was from New Westminister so they came to see me at the
airport and then I went home and they had a ticker parade in
New Westminister, I don't know how long after, a few days, anyway
Because don't forget, there was two VC's from New Westminister.
Jack Manning and myself, and he was ahead of me... but they had
a big parade for me and then in Vancouver, they were all
treating me pretty good. I figured it's all gotta end sometime.