The bunch of us were up north of the Sangro River and we had been
shooting. We came back and we went into this house and there
was a big table there and we hadn’t eaten. So we decided we’d
eat. Now I’m sitting here; where you are there’s an open window
and the river is there. So we’re talking and everything else and
finally I got up and I said, “Anybody want coffee?” And
they said, “Yeah.” So I got up and I went over and I just picked
up the coffee pot and boom. In came an 88. It hit just below ...
on the bank just below the window. “Anybody hurt?” “No.” So
I went back and sat down and Herbie says to me, “Normie look
over ... turn around.” And I said, “What for?” and he says,
“Turn around.” And I turned around and in the wall was a hunk
of shrapnel that big, where my head was. Now, I guess that’s the
closest that I could say that I came. Mind you, I have been
pinned down lots of times, but that would be the closest, that
would be the closest. I never got hurt, I was very lucky.
After the battle of Ortona – after Ortona was taken –
I was working with Alex Stirton and my driver was Kenny
White. We moved in to Ortona and the Jerries had gone
a couple of days later and we stayed at this ... we took
over an old store and we set up in there. Well Jerry pounded it
and did he pound .... night after night, night after night. I’m
sitting there having a drink of rye and I started shaking. Just
like that. But my head’s clear, my head’s clear as a bell. And
Alex Stirton looks at me and says you need another drink, here.
So the next morning we get up and we go out and sitting outside
in this – it was a little store – outside the store were two, 85k
boxes of Italian explosives. If Jerry had ever hit even close to
us .... he pounded us all night long; 88s and the moaning
minnies, the mortars. Anyway, from there we pulled back into
San Vito. That’s were the whole outfit pulled back into.
I’m standing out side one day and ... I think it was still
in San Vito ... and Terry Roe was a still photographer from
Windsor and he came by and I said, “Your not saying hello Terry?”
says, “Oh, hi Norm.” I said, “What’s the matter?” He
says, “I’m going to Anzio,” he said, “and I don’t want to go.” I
said. “Well tell them you don’t want to go, then don’t go.” He
said, “I got orders to go.” I said, “Who’s going with you?” He
said, “Colin McDougall and Davie King’s the driver and myself.”
He’s the still photographer. He says, “I’m not going to come
back.” I said, “Come on.” You know, we all got that feeling
once in a while. I said, “Terry come on, you’re gonna come back.”
Never did. Got killed the day that they landed there. Colin
McDougall got wounded. Davie King got wounded. Gordie Hutton ran
out and pulled their bodies in while they were still alive ...
but Terry wasn’t ... he was killed outright by a 20mm shell
that came in. So he was the first one ... he was the first one to
get killed.