I don't think that they're interested. I was asked to ah, speak
and I've done a lot of it when I was with the CNIB and I,
November the 11th, and I produced, reproduced the pictures of
the Japanese prisoners as they were, you've seen the pictures I'm sure,
reproduced a lot of the material that visually identified the problem
and conditions we were in. I would say that out of the group
of 70 or 80 people, maybe 2 or 3 said to me,
"Gosh, it must have been awful".
The rest just went home and had their drink and enjoyed their evening.
I don't think, even my own family, I've never talked to my own family about it.
I once had brought these books in and I said to Vivian
if they would like to look at them and if they would even find them
of use I would leave them with them. And she said,
"But what about the family?" I said,
I doubt if the family would ever even open them. Because it,
even for me it's hard to realize and appreciate that this all took place.
How can I expect them to do it.
Interviewer: Is it important to you though, that Canadians
have an appreciation of what happened in Hong Kong?
I think it's an embarrassment that they don't have.
I listen to a radio broadcast the other day and Bill Good was on,
and this chap was saying, "Over in Europe" he said, "its unbelievable.
Over in Europe there are the signs, welcome Canadians and
thank you for doing this and that and whatever".
He said, "I come back to my own country" and he says,
"it's the last thing you want to talk about".
I remember when I got the Order of BC,
I couldn't help but notice when they called me to the lectern,
they didn't mention that I was a prisoner of war of the Japanese.
They said I was a prisoner of war. But you, they don't want to publicize,
the governments don't want to publicize that. They simply rushed over,
looked at what it says, what they're talking about.
They don't say I was a prisoner of war of the Japanese,
I was a prisoner of war. The trade and commerce and
all the rest of it, takes precedence over everything that we did.
And I think it's a shame that I, I really am not great for monuments
and medals and stuff. But I believe that history is pretty important.