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Heavy Fighting

Heroes Remember

Transcript
Flack was coming up and above us, planes were dropping flares so the fighters could come in and we could actually, I could actually see fighters coming in and attacking other planes. I could see other planes being blown up. And we had a, we were just coming out, we had gone through and were turning to come out. You know, you go in so many degrees and you turn, so you don't get a stream coming at you. You got to go away, so you don't meet these coming in. We were just pulling out and a voice came on the air and said, "Oh, oh God, oh mother, oh mother mother. Skipper, skipper, help me, help me." And the skipper came on and he said, "Abandon air craft, abandon air craft, abandon aircraft." And then he starting calling out the names of all the crew and all the crew answered except this one guy, and he said, he kept calling his name, "Charlie, Charlie, Charlie!" You know, "Answer me, answer me!" And finally the guy said, "Skipper, skipper. Help me, help me! I can't move, I can't move." And the skipper kept talking to him and talking to him and you could see the damn plane going down, you could actually see it. And it got lower and lower and lower and finally the skipper says, "Don't worry, I'm going to stay with you." And he did, all the way down, until that thing went "Badoom!" and that was horrendous. Because none of us had realized, nobody ever... I don't think the pilot himself ever realized he had the... There's several different switches in the air craft, you can talk crew to crew, you can talk member to member, air plane to air plane, air to ground. And I think he got the air to air switch put on. So we were not only listening to him and his crew, you know, it was being transmitted to the other planes.
Description

Mr. Western talks about one night of heavy fighting , when another air plane was shot down and the radio from the plane was on. Everyone heard the tail gunner and pilot plunging to their death.

Rev Jack Western

Mr. Western was born on July 20, 1923, in Bradford, England. His father, a businessman, sold coal but due to the UK General Strike of 1926 switched to selling fresh vegetables. Mr. Western joined the Royal Air Force with the intention of becoming a pilot partially because of the stories he had heard from First World War pilots. Unfortunately, he was unable to become a pilot due to the requirement for a high level of mathematical skills. As a result he became a tail gunner and flew 22 missions before the war ended. After the war Mr. Western became a police officer. He lost his leg while he was the police chief and went on to serve as a civilian in police services for a total of 20 years. For the next 28 years he worked as a court administrator and also as a Justice of the Peace for the Province of Ontario. When he retired in 1995 he became a pastor. He currently resides in Sarnia, Ontario.

Meta Data
Medium:
Video
Owner:
Veterans Affairs Canada
Duration:
02:18
Person Interviewed:
Rev Jack Western
War, Conflict or Mission:
Second World War
Location/Theatre:
Europe
Branch:
Air Force
Units/Ship:
153 Squadron
Rank:
W.O. II
Occupation:
Tail Gunner

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