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The camaraderie got a hold of me.

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The camaraderie got a hold of me.

The camaraderie got a hold of me. I began to, to realize that if you were with a bunch of guys who were all being prepared to put their life on the line, they were good guys. If they weren't, they got out. We had what was called NETD; not, well not likely to be an official soldier type of thing and you got rid of them. And that was good, because it meant that the people that were left were tough, rough, good and would do the job for you. So everybody was put to the same level, you were eating the same, you were drinking the same, you were chasing girls if you liked the same, but everybody was sort of on the same level type of of thing. And I found that, that was a great, a great thing to learn. I thought where do you ever learn this? You know, I mean if I'd gone through and become a lawyer and what not, I would have been in a law office trying to talk somebody out of some money or you know, whatever. But I never would have had that experience of knowing what real men really, what they really thought and what they, what they were capable of. So it was an experience to join the army and to really if you like, I hate to use the word but to study it, to understand that you had a God given opportunity to understand what men were, what life was all about, what men were all about, what men were capable of. The one experience that stands out above all others, it's almost an epiphany, but the one experience that stands out above all others, is to put your life on the line. Is to walk beside a guy knowing damn well that if he stepped on a mine he would tell you. He would push you out of the way and he would let the mine blow him up. Blow himself up. He, you know that's, that's the, I think the ultimate sort of thought that you have to have on this kind of, of experience I guess. And where else do you get that? I mean people, we all have companions with whom, colleagues with whom we work and what not, but where else do you get the thing that ... well I'll give it to you this way. I'm 86 years of age. The only close friends I have in this world, are guys that I served with in the army. Don't ask me why that is, but I mean, Jack Mitchell is in the hospital in Winnipeg. He could call me tomorrow and I'd jump on a plane, I don't give a damn what I'd do I'd jump on a plane and I'd say, "Jack what is it?" No, I'd go to hell and back for him. I've worked with hundreds of really great people, I've got a lot of them surrounding me right here in this building. Really great people, but I don't know that I would ask any of them to put their life on the line and I don't know that I'd put mine on the line for them. It's just not a ... this bonding is such a strong, strong, strong feeling and it has a lot to do with the fact that you live very close to the edge for a long time. Now you're not exposed to danger all of that time, but you're exposed to the possibility of danger all that time. And it changes your, your outlook, that's why. So what is the, what is the final, final judgement if you like, on comradeship? It can't be defined, I can't define it. I don't think it can be defined. I mean it's just a feeling and yet, you, you get in a plane load of a bunch of guys going over to Korea for example, on a pilgrimage. And what happens? All the corny jokes they told, you know fifty years ago or what have you and what not, but if any one of those guys, let's say somebody on the bus insulted them..., I'd fear for the guys life.

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