Changed to Chains

But then they changed to the chains. We had the ties. We were tied for three months. We were chained up for a year and three months.

Interviewer: That’s a long time.

And we were walked every day and you know as depressing and disheartening and, of course, when you’re in prison camp we weren’t getting very much to eat. We were kept on a minimum ration and the reason they do that is to stop you from escaping. You can’t get too healthy, can’t keep too much work.

Interviewer: Trying to keep you down.

Keep you down; you can’t give them any trouble. That’s how they starve you. And, of course, guys were getting sick and I got sick. I got a bit of pneumonia and I was in my, I laid in my bunk for three days. And jeez, you can’t go out to roll call, you’re not on roll call. I was in 19B. “19B one guy missing, where is he? ” You have a hut commander eh, “He’s in sick.” “Okay two guards check!” And the guards come in and you’re in bed. They poke you with their rifles and make sure you are sick and then feel your head and, “Yah,yah sick, okay!” Then you’re okay, you can stay in bed for the day until the next day and if you stay in too long they take you down to lazaret and try to kill you. But lazaret was the hospital, eh.