We were burning and the ship was full
of blood and dead bodies everywhere.
Interviewer: Did you consider jumping
into the sea for any reason?
Not me, but the second mate he came up and,
well I was there trying to lower the
lifeboat but I was alone doing it.
And he said that, "I'm jumping overboard."
and I said, "Are you crazy?"
I said, "We're both bleeding like pigs and
there's lots of sharks in there."
So I, well he said, "I'm jumping!"
And his leg was pretty well shot off,
it was just hanging there.
So he jumped and why he did that
I can't understand because...
but believe it or not, a year later I met him,
he was still alive,
been picked up by another lifeboat.
I didn't know that.
Interviewer: Almost a miracle.
Yes. Then I started to lower the lifeboat
and tried to get someone to help me.
There wasn't a single soul who
could do anything.
They were just like statues,
they were petrified.
I couldn't hear, because of the explosion
we were totally deaf, you know.
So I finally got one and I got him to
take a tactile and he got so nervous
that he dropped it and I tried to cut mine,
which jammed in the, in the tactile.
So I cut it down and the boat went
right down, with seven men in it,
but it raised itself up, so it was okay.
I picked them up later. I got the other
lifeboat out pretty well alone.
When I got the boats out, then all of a
sudden people came from everywhere,
but none to help me get the boats out,
not a single soul.
And the worst of all,
when we got the lifeboat down
loaded with people, I looked down to
the port side and there was another
destroyer with the guns aiming right at us.
He was there to sink us,
the first one just to disable us.
And we were right in the, in the line,
where he was going to fire,
because he was going to fire
at the engineroom naturally and
we were, the lifeboats were
right outside of there.
I was in the back, you know with the
steering right there and they had,
my friend that was together earlier sinking,
he was laying top of me,
he was so bloody...
piece of meat, he was shot
through everywhere you know.
And I couldn'tt move and I got
the guy attention to point,
I pointed at the destroyer,
told him you better get us,
push us away from that before
they shoot, otherwise, be a gone.
So he realized the situation and
got an oar out and pushed us back
so that we slid back behind and
the same time they fired,
just in front of the lifeboat
and sunk the ship.
When I came back there,
then I found another lifeboat with
three men in it, captain, and scratch,
there wasn't a scratch on him, and two,
the crew was Chinese and we couldn't
very well, well I couldn't understand
them very well. Anyway, we picked up the,
the boat the captain was in, was sinking,
it was full of water.
So was ours, but mine was
full of people too.
Now we had to take them
onboard, that's bad.
And then the first one,
I told you that went down,
right down with the seven people
onboard that one was floating
nearby so (inaudible).
That was the best lifeboat actually.
So I got some of the crew onboard,
that one to come back where I was,
but they said that they
want to be where I was, because I was
the only one who saved their life and
I flipped over, they refused to leave my
boat. The only way I got them to go,
was that I took a line between the
two boats and we got some of my crew
transferred to theirs and we sailed
back to Java. It took five days.
Interviewer: Five days! Did you have
any water with you?
Boat, it was full of salt because it was,
the tanks were shot through.
The boats were full of blood and
water you know.
Interviewer: So had no drinking water?
Didn't have any drinking water.
But we got the rain shower
the third day and we,
we collected quite a bit of water.
That was the only time we had water.
Interviewer: So how many days
was it getting to Java?
Five days to Java.
Interviewer: Five days at sea!
Then we had two days through the
jungle before we got into civilization.